The Dwarfin Clans

2007-02-02 [xido]: All I ask for is 'Clans', plural. That is a personal preference of mine, though, but it is also the name of this page. ;)

I would think that Dwarves like to split into further Clans, depending on social trend and disposition.

2007-02-02 [Kim_Lundin]: Right, that's not a big sacrifice to do :) Otherwise, any pointers? I'm just winging it at the moment.

2007-02-03 [xido]: Check out and watch what I do with the Draconic Clan for an idea.... It is under work right now, but hopefully to include both aspects of Dracology and Dragons - Biology, Sociology, and Magic's venues. Make sure to find Dwarf-raced people, or dwarf-wikipages around the Elftown Community, and ask them for input, volunteer graphics, page structure, etc.

Essentially the Dwarf Clans will establish whatever form of govermental body they wish to make, and be all Dwarfy about it. ;) I will do a little work on the Undead Clan, so that nobody gets angry at me for being biased, then all the others will just follow suit when they are ready.

2007-02-03 [Kim_Lundin]: I can't see the Draconic Clan :P Only sais "Access denied to this wiki-page".
I'll make a search and see what I can find.

2007-02-05 [xido]: Now try. ;)

2007-02-05 [Kim_Lundin]: Ah, looks quite different from this one :)

2007-02-06 [xido]: I added a bit more. Now it is what I was envisioning before...

Feel free to do what you please with this for now, but when people start filtering in (if they do), be ready to make big changes and get along with people who disagree with you... Or at least, be prepared for it in case it does happen.

I have approached Hedda about the idea of adding Fantasy Race Clans to the House Descriptions...

Plus, this might turn out to be a forward move for Take Elftown Back...  ;)
-will

2007-02-06 [Kim_Lundin]: Right. Smile, nod and agree, I've done it before :D
Adding to the description? Can't we already do that? With the "Fantasy race personality"? Or are we thinking about different things?

2007-02-06 [xido]: I'm talking about adding new fantasy races (which Hedda doesn't want to do...) So I chose adding 'Clans' of Fantasy Races... Plus, what if I want to be a Dragon instead of a Duck? Ducks have a choice, but Dragons don't... So I am working on that. ;)

2007-02-07 [Kim_Lundin]: Ah, I see. Hmm... a bit strange they didn't add dragon in the first place. I've never really understood the "duck" selection, it must be some kind of inside joke.

2007-02-13 [xido]: Must be. Silly Ducks. XP

Suggestions from he-who-cannot-mind-his-own-business:
- Name a specific Dwarven Clan that you wish to represent on the Dwarfin Clans Council, ie. in Irrundanil, it is the tribal council of the Ruundan Clan that decides the major decisions of that clan, and the Clan Leader represents the Clan when meeting with ALL of the Dwarfin Clans. (Also, this will mean that your Clan can easily step down from total leadership when a Council Member steps in and takes precedence. Elftown Council gets first dibs on all decisions made in this regard. Even I must step down from the Draconic Clan as Clan Leader if someone from the Council decides that they are a Dragon. :/ At least, that is how I envision it.

- Add to links:
The Fantasy Minority > Fantasy Endangered Species List (FESL)

2007-02-13 [xido]: Also, these changes will make it more fluid:

Dwarven Great Hall = Dwarfin Clan RP Hall
Dwarven Gathering Halls
Dwarven Training Area = Dwarfin Clan Tactical Unit (focus on groups of people instead of new locations)
Dwarven Private Chambers = member list(s)

The different dwarven subraces
  Hill Dwarf Clan
  Deep Dwarf Clan (Derro)
  Mountain Dwarf Clan (Ruundan)
  Duergar Dwarf Clan

Dwarfin Clan Members (add list below)
1: [Kim_Lundin]
2: [xido]

2007-02-13 [Kim_Lundin]: Right, I'll make those changes ASAP, but I have to get to school first. *ZOOM*

2007-02-13 [Kim_Lundin]: Hmm... now what should we do with that tactical unit? A group of members who advertise? Or more like moderators to make sure all runs smoothly?

2007-02-14 [xido]: *admires Kim's ZOOMing*)

A couple of choices there:
- A Guild RPG page (see the Guild Home for what I mean about that)
- A Clans advertising group (definitely a tactical move)
- A group about Dwarfins, for dwarves & all dwarf-kin, and people interested in making the Dwarf and Dwarven Races better. Be prepared for diversity, if it comes in. Do you have any issues giving up governing decision if a Council member walks in and asks you to be Vice Clan Leader (2, 3, or even more moves down the chain if that many join the Dwarves)??

You're doing great, bud. That's why I trust you with big pages like this. Do you have ownership of it right now?
-will

2007-02-14 [Kim_Lundin]: A group for advertising would be good, but more members are needed to make that a good one.
The RPG I figured would take place in the Great Hall (Dwarfin Clan RP Hall), as soon as I got that finished, that is.
Vice Clan Leader is a good position for me, if a Council member want to be at the top, that way I can still have a say but I can put the blame on someone else if I want to :D

2007-02-14 [Kim_Lundin]: Oh, and I do stand as the owner of this page. Do you want me to give that to you?

2007-02-14 [xido]: lol!

No, no, keep ownership. I just wanted to make sure that was the case... This project is going to be multi-faceted, not something I could put together all by myself. I will definitely let others take the lead on their own separate Clans... I just want to make a good example with one, so that it is more obvious what the Clan is all about. You're doing great, Kim.

2007-02-14 [Kim_Lundin]: Thanks, it's good to hear that.

2007-02-17 [xido]: You are most welcome, Kimbo.

Suggestion: search for some Elftown Graphics until you have some artists who will make some art for your Clan.

I have told [Torr-maat], a master Psion, about the Duergar Dwarf Clan because of his interest in them. I am not sure if there will be a limit on how many Clans a person can belong to until some further decisions are made on the idea by ET Council. ;)

Do I have your interest in this, at least? ;)
-will

2007-02-17 [xido]: And Kim, please tell if the Suggestions get old, because it seems I cannot keep them to myself.... XP

2007-02-17 [Kim_Lundin]: Ah, never thought about the Elftown Graphics, gotta look over there.
If [Torr-maat] is interested in the dueargar he is more than welcome here.

2007-02-19 [xido]: So far, gnomes are not represented... Would you care to take on a non-polled Gnome Clans / Minor Clans here for link purposes? Or do you think they are best suited to the halfling & hobbit clans/tribes?

2007-02-19 [xido]: http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/mof_gallery/MonFaePG47.jpg Monsters of Faerun Dwarven Races Lineup
Races of Stone: http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/ag/20040813a

2007-02-19 [Kim_Lundin]: Well, in my oppinion, gnomes are closer related to dwarves than halflings, so I could certainly add a link here. Don't know if I have the time to WORK on a gnome clans, got to keep track on the measly twenty-four hours a day I have (how I wish I could add a couple more hours).

2007-02-20 [xido]: No, that's fine. I just want to have it all organized for when someone DOES come in and throw a fit about not having gnomes in one of the Clans as a choice.

Please see Halfling & Hobbit Clans/Tribes for any other information not listed here (which there are a few key points to have posted, like the MGP House Leader (which there is not currently one, but there will be). Feel free to edit the page to get the code tags for it if you wish. It does help. I love the lineup pic up top. Nice work. ;)
-will

2007-04-13 [odeg]: Want..gnomes...please! <3 gnomes! Gnome power! I'll totally be a gnome!

2007-04-15 [Kim_Lundin]: Well, the Gnome Clans are empty at the moment, but if you're interested in helping out I'm sure xido can give you something to do.